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Topic: 03 Cobra's in the garage, on the 1/4.
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TacDoc
 Proud VCA Member
From:Catlettsburg, KY Registered: Oct 2000
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I have had my '03 Cobras three days now. Dodge please take note. I think everyone has to consider the GT-40 a credible threat. The Cobra ragtop only has 28 miles on it so no real info. I had this week off and spent the last couple days driving constantly to hit the 1000 mile mark on the hardtop. Finally made it, changed the oil, and went to family night last night at the local strip . Took out all dead weight, except myself, and ran two passes. Launch at 2500rpm. My best of two was an R.T. of .487, E.T. was 12.3 @ 118.4. The car felt stronger than my RT/10 from the start, and above 3500 RPM it rivaled my GTS in pull feel. This was using the stock pulley.. I am being told if I add the Lightning pulley @ $25 I can expect 40 more HP. Sad thing is I drove both Cobra's off the lot for less than the invoice of my '00 GTS. ------------------ Greg 96 RT/10 (K&N) 00 GTS (K&N carbon fiber airbox, smooth tubes, Borla 3" exhaust, revalved Konis, Eibach springs, adj endlinks, anti-toe brackets) 03 SRT-10 (ordered) 03 SVT COBRA Convertable 03 SVT COBRA Hardtop The toy race is on, wife permitting 
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TobyT
From:Cincinnati, Ohio,USA Registered: Feb 2002
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You must complete the story with pics!  ------------------ I am currently looking for my first Viper.

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Supra
From:AZ Registered: Aug 2001
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118.4 MPH in the Cobra? WOW! At ~3700 pound weight with driver that translates to about 479 crank HP, at 3600 pounds about 466 HP at the crank. Impressive! Sounds like you have some good driving skills as well. Nice set of rides you got there quote: Originally posted by TacDoc: I have had my '03 Cobras three days now. Dodge please take note. I think everyone has to consider the GT-40 a credible threat. The Cobra ragtop only has 28 miles on it so no real info. I had this week off and spent the last couple days driving constantly to hit the 1000 mile mark on the hardtop. Finally made it, changed the oil, and went to family night last night at the local strip . Took out all dead weight, except myself, and ran two passes. Launch at 2500rpm. My best of two was an R.T. of .487, E.T. was 12.3 @ 118.4. The car felt stronger than my RT/10 from the start, and above 3500 RPM it rivaled my GTS in pull feel. This was using the stock pulley.. I am being told if I add the Lightning pulley @ $25 I can expect 40 more HP. Sad thing is I drove both Cobra's off the lot for less than the invoice of my '00 GTS.
------------------ 1994 Supra TT 6speed HKS Twin Turbos 786.2 RWHP and 637.1 RWTQ on boost 873.8 RWHP and 736.2 RWTQ with NOS. Stock internals. Dyno sheet: http://www.suprastore.com/guil19suphks.html 10.41 @ 139.6 MPH on Drag Radials without NOS Best MPH 143.2 MPH on drag radials without NOS
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Scott J

From:San Ramon, CA Registered: Jul 2001
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TacDoc:You're killing me; now I have to convince the wife to let me get a Cobra to park alongside the GTS. Very impressive and at $35K you simply can't beat that kind of out-the-door performance. Nice too see another serious performer join the USA lineup of sports cars!   
------------------ '00 Black GTS
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Craig 201 MPH
From:Cobourg (toronto), Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2000
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I am the jealous!maybe it'll make a good stepping stone car to the viper in a couple years....... sucks for all the people that paid $50K for a cobra R ------------------ THE ONLY THING I LIKE MORE THAN VIPERS IS MONEY
  This message has been edited by Craig 201 MPH on 06-14-2002 at 09:51 AM
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TacDoc
 Proud VCA Member
From:Catlettsburg, KY Registered: Oct 2000
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Supra, I had removed the spare, the back seat cushions, hehe. The car was 3550 lbs on the scale. ------------------ Greg 96 RT/10 (K&N) 00 GTS (K&N carbon fiber airbox, smooth tubes, Borla 3" exhaust, revalved Konis, Eibach springs, adj endlinks, anti-toe brackets) 03 SRT-10 (ordered) 03 SVT COBRA Convertable 03 SVT COBRA Hardtop The toy race is on, wife permitting 
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TobyT
From:Cincinnati, Ohio,USA Registered: Feb 2002
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If those times are the standard for this new car and with a cheap pulley.... The value of Vipers may drop even further sorry to say. Not saying that a Mustang is even close to being in the same league as a Viper.

Nice engine! ------------------ I am currently looking for my first Viper.

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Supra
From:AZ Registered: Aug 2001
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Still very impressive. Was that weight with or without you in the car? 3550 pounds with you in it would still be ~460 crank HP.Have you dynoed the car (I imagine not based on your post), any mods at all? Filter? Anything? TobyT, I seriously doubt the value of Vipers will go down any just because the Cobra performs well, 2 very different cars. quote: Originally posted by TacDoc: Supra, I had removed the spare, the back seat cushions, hehe. The car was 3550 lbs on the scale.
------------------ 1994 Supra TT 6speed HKS Twin Turbos 786.2 RWHP and 637.1 RWTQ on boost 873.8 RWHP and 736.2 RWTQ with NOS. Stock internals. Dyno sheet: http://www.suprastore.com/guil19suphks.html 10.41 @ 139.6 MPH on Drag Radials without NOS Best MPH 143.2 MPH on drag radials without NOS
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ElDiablo Viper
 NY/CT VCA Member
From:Pomona, NY Registered: Mar 2001
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The only Ford worth having is GT40. ------------------ 02 GTS with Corsa, ss brake lines, 5-point harness, Porsche front brake cooling ducts. 2001 Corvette coupe[SOLD] 02 BMW X5 4.6
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Motor City Mad Man
 Motor City VCA Member
From:Commerce Township, Michigan Registered: Nov 2000
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Wow!!! My buddy ran against a 2003 Mustang Cobra at the track last night a few times and the best the guy in the new Cobra did was 13.3 @ 108. All you did was take out the seat cushions and spare? I don't know how the same car could run 1 second faster like that. Either you a a very good driver or the guy that ran against my buddy really sux.------------------ Sean 1996 Viper GTS: Hennessey headers, Borla exhaust, Roe hi-flow cats, Roe Racing VEC-1, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, K&N air filters, smooth tubes, short throw shifter, MGW gripper shift knob, 3.45 axle, heavy duty 1/2 shafts, chromed wheel rims, SS brake lines. 436 rwhp 484 rw ft-lbs torque Best 1/4 time: 12.25 @ 120.28 so far. 2001 Ford F-150 Supercrew 4X4 (daily driver and towing vehicle)
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96 R/T 10

From:Enterprise, AL USA Registered: Jun 2001
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quote:
The only Ford worth having is GT40
I disagree. I would take the SVT convert! With that kind of performance(want to see how it does with the pulley change) you can't beat it for the money.Mike ------------------ 96 Viper R/T (Tubes+filters, more to come!) 65 Buick Wildcat (Dual quad, custom built headers, 3000 RPM stall converter, and 410 posi) 31 Five window Ford(still sitting in a garage in Cali) UH-60 helicopter 3200RHP Top speed over 200MPH(been there done that)
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TobyT
From:Cincinnati, Ohio,USA Registered: Feb 2002
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quote: Originally posted by Supra:TobyT, I seriously doubt the value of Vipers will go down any just because the Cobra performs well, 2 very different cars. [/B]
I agree but I guess what I was saying is that if performance #'s are coming out of cars such as these...demand for a used Viper may go down a bit for the people who are looking just for performance and not so much looks. If there are enough products that reduce the demand for another product..then the price comes down to balance the demand. 460 Hp seems a bit high vs the rated 390 ------------------ I am currently looking for my first Viper.

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slaughterj
 Carolinas VCA Member
From:Richmond, VA / Durham, NC Registered: Mar 2001
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quote: Originally posted by TobyT: I agree but I guess what I was saying is that if performance #'s are coming out of cars such as these...demand for a used Viper may go down a bit for the people who are looking just for performance and not so much looks. If there are enough products that reduce the demand for another product..then the price comes down to balance the demand.
That seems like a legitimate point - kinda like the Ferrari Testarossa, it may still have looks but its performance is poor compared to today's cars. ------------------ 98 Viper RT/10 (w/ filters & tubes, 424.6 rwhp, 472.8 torque) 99 Mustang GT (gone to the 'rents) 00 S2000 (hers) 01 Supercrew
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TacDoc
 Proud VCA Member
From:Catlettsburg, KY Registered: Oct 2000
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Supra, Without me, 1/4 tank of gas, NOS octane booster, Kumho Victoracer V700's. ------------------ Greg 96 RT/10 (K&N) 00 GTS (K&N carbon fiber airbox, smooth tubes, Borla 3" exhaust, revalved Konis, Eibach springs, adj endlinks, anti-toe brackets) 03 SRT-10 (ordered) 03 SVT COBRA Convertable 03 SVT COBRA Hardtop The toy race is on, wife permitting  This message has been edited by TacDoc on 06-14-2002 at 11:08 AM
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Supra
From:AZ Registered: Aug 2001
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WOW! That means the car must be in the 3700 to 3750 pound range with you in it? That puts it at 480+ HP stock!TobyT, the HP #'s is what's required to get that kind of trapspeed out of a car weighing that much. Trust me I would love for the prices of Vipers to come down some as I want to get a GTS soon without having to sell my Supra Motor City, probably a bit of both. I have run BPU Supras about 1 second and 7+ MPH faster than their owners could do on the same track the same night. quote: Originally posted by TacDoc: Supra, Without me, 1/4 tank of gas.
------------------ 1994 Supra TT 6speed HKS Twin Turbos 786.2 RWHP and 637.1 RWTQ on boost 873.8 RWHP and 736.2 RWTQ with NOS. Stock internals. Dyno sheet: http://www.suprastore.com/guil19suphks.html 10.41 @ 139.6 MPH on Drag Radials without NOS Best MPH 143.2 MPH on drag radials without NOS
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The Joker
From:Glendale, AZ USA Registered: Jan 2002
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quote: Originally posted by Motor City Mad Man: Wow!!! My buddy ran against a 2003 Mustang Cobra at the track last night a few times and the best the guy in the new Cobra did was 13.3 @ 108. All you did was take out the seat cushions and spare? I don't know how the same car could run 1 second faster like that. Either you a a very good driver or the guy that ran against my buddy really sux.
13.3???? I do that with my arms tied behind my back and going in reverse! That guy is giving Cobra's a bad name! I really do hope Ford scraps the whole Mustang Cobra crap and builds a real Cobra from the ground up...A REAL SPORTS CAR with a big block! ------------------ 65 Shelby Cobra (replica, couldn't afford a real one) Jeep Wrangler Ford Bronco Pontiac Sunfire (Wife's car, I refuse to drive it)
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TacDoc
 Proud VCA Member
From:Catlettsburg, KY Registered: Oct 2000
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Also, was your friends a hardtop or ragtop? How was his break in. I did mine meticulously over a two day period with absolutely no RPM's over 2500 for 1000 miles. Call me compulsive.------------------ Greg 96 RT/10 (K&N) 00 GTS (K&N carbon fiber airbox, smooth tubes, Borla 3" exhaust, revalved Konis, Eibach springs, adj endlinks, anti-toe brackets) 03 SRT-10 (ordered) 03 SVT COBRA Convertable 03 SVT COBRA Hardtop The toy race is on, wife permitting 
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CatchMeCopper
From:Wilbraham, MA, USA Registered: Apr 2002
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What color is your hardtop? Pictures pictures pictures. Im still waiting for my car and you got two of them already.. NOT FAIR!!  ------------------ 2003 Black/Black Mustang Cobra Coupe (Build Date: June 3rd!!) 2002 Ford Thunderbird Tbird Blue with blue and black interior. Premium with hardtop, loaded. 2001 Ford F-150 Supercrew Lariat 1997 GMC Jimmy (sold) 2000 Bonneville SSEi (sold) Proud Member of (A)merican (M)uscle (A)gainst (R)icers
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Motor City Mad Man
 Motor City VCA Member
From:Commerce Township, Michigan Registered: Nov 2000
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quote: Originally posted by TacDoc: Also, was your friends a hardtop or ragtop? How was his break in. I did mine meticulously over a two day period with absolutely no RPM's over 2500 for 1000 miles. Call me compulsive.
The guy with the Mustang is not anyone I know. My buddy is the guy that raced against him. I guess it was a hardtop and had only 80 miles on it. Ouch, I would think he would want to break it in a little before he beat on it.
------------------ Sean 1996 Viper GTS: Hennessey headers, Borla exhaust, Roe hi-flow cats, Roe Racing VEC-1, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, K&N air filters, smooth tubes, short throw shifter, MGW gripper shift knob, 3.45 axle, heavy duty 1/2 shafts, chromed wheel rims, SS brake lines. 436 rwhp 484 rw ft-lbs torque Best 1/4 time: 12.25 @ 120.28 so far. 2001 Ford F-150 Supercrew 4X4 (daily driver and towing vehicle)
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Mike Brunton

From:N. Andover, MA Registered: Oct 2000
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12.3@118 is enough to spank a Z06!!!And that's stock? Booya!!! hehehehe ------------------ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 2003 SRT on order (RED!) =-= A good friend will bail you out of jail. Your best friend will be the one sitting next to you saying "Dude, that was awesome" =-= Where the f&%# are all the zombies? That's the problem with zombies... they're unreliable!!!
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Supra
From:AZ Registered: Aug 2001
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TacDoc, do you have any mods at all on your Cobra? quote: Originally posted by TacDoc: Also, was your friends a hardtop or ragtop? How was his break in. I did mine meticulously over a two day period with absolutely no RPM's over 2500 for 1000 miles. Call me compulsive.
------------------ 1994 Supra TT 6speed HKS Twin Turbos 786.2 RWHP and 637.1 RWTQ on boost 873.8 RWHP and 736.2 RWTQ with NOS. Stock internals. Dyno sheet: http://www.suprastore.com/guil19suphks.html 10.41 @ 139.6 MPH on Drag Radials without NOS Best MPH 143.2 MPH on drag radials without NOS
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Jams
From:Wayne, NJ Registered: Apr 2002
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You have a timeslip of this amazing run?------------------
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MadMaxx

From:Simpsonville, SC Registered: May 2001
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That is DAMMMN SMOKKKIN! For a ford no less! hehe  MadMaxx ------------------ 96 RT/10 Smooth Tubes & filters Mopar wires "FEUER FREI!"
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TacDoc
 Proud VCA Member
From:Catlettsburg, KY Registered: Oct 2000
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Hardtop is Mineral grey metallic. Convertable is Silver metallic/Black top. The dealer got a third one in for a friend, black/camel.Except for the Kuhmos I guess you could say I am stock. ------------------ Greg 96 RT/10 (K&N) 00 GTS (K&N carbon fiber airbox, smooth tubes, Borla 3" exhaust, revalved Konis, Eibach springs, adj endlinks, anti-toe brackets) 03 SRT-10 (ordered) 03 SVT COBRA Convertable 03 SVT COBRA Hardtop The toy race is on, wife permitting 
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TacDoc
 Proud VCA Member
From:Catlettsburg, KY Registered: Oct 2000
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Jams, Yes. I am at work right now, will post when I get home. Have to scan them.------------------ Greg 96 RT/10 (K&N) 00 GTS (K&N carbon fiber airbox, smooth tubes, Borla 3" exhaust, revalved Konis, Eibach springs, adj endlinks, anti-toe brackets) 03 SRT-10 (ordered) 03 SVT COBRA Convertable 03 SVT COBRA Hardtop The toy race is on, wife permitting 
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