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Topic: 931 rw hp Viper
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King GTS
Texas VCA Member
From:Houston, Tx USA
Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by :
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I'm lost - I can't find any info regarding Michael's Post. And that's wierd, I tried to "Quote" Martin D's Post and it wouldn't allow me to.  Now Martin's Post has disappeared. Did I read correctly that a guy named Michael, a moderator, was mud slinging?
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Trey Pullen
01 GTS/Serpent 505 + TNT 3" Stainless Exhaust
+ 1 3/4" TNT Headers
+ TNT 65mm Throttle Bodies
+ Ported Intake manifold
+ Race Air Induction
+ 1.7 Billet Shaft Rockers
+ Hardened Pushrods
+ 8.5 mm Plug Wires
+ 3.45 Rear End
+ TNT Aluminum Flywheel Horsepower ****
537.2 HP & 587.9 TQ
459.2 RWHP & 502.5 RWTQ This message has been edited by King GTS on 01-10-2002 at 01:18 PM
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DgeViper1
NY/CT VCA Member
From:Manhasset, NY, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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Is there video???------------------
Dan B.
DLM Level 1 Supercharged ACR
617RWHP 675RWTQ
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Michael Pierce
VA/MD VCA Member
From:Virginia
Registered: Oct 2000
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quote:
Michael, a moderator, was mud slinging?
A gross mischaracterization. But not the proper venue for the questions I had. ------------------
Michael D. Pierce
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John Hennessey / HMS
Texas VCA Member
From:Houston, TX
Registered: Oct 2000
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Hi Dan,Best ET was a 10.20 and best trap speed was 143.8 mph. Overall we were pleased that the car ran consistently and reliably. We did discover that we are making less boost in 1st and 2nd gears and that may have made us a bit slower thru the 1/8th mile. But the car rocks in 3rd and 4th and I think is faster than the 143 mph indicates. Anyway, we have a few more tweaks and may make another visit to the track at some point in the future. There is a video out there and if I can find the link I will post it. Regards, John
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FastMatt
AZ/NM VCA Member
From:alamogordo nm USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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so the car is slower with more hp? did your 60ft's go all to hell or somthing? 143 is rocking, what was it's MPH befor?------------------
Matt Monett
www.dynamicracing.com
2000 Viper GTS ACR 11.74@127 at 3600ft stock w/ 150 shot
95 Stealth RT TT 10.88@129.16mph @ 3600ft with 18psi with a 70hp shot. 10.96@129.96 @ 3600ft with 22psi and No NOS. All rus on 4 nito 555 drags, 100% street car, 4070lb with me in it(worlds fastest Dodge Stealth)
93 RT TT 11.74@120 @3600ft
92 Stealth RT TT
95 Eclipse GS-T
2000 Excurtion 4X4 7.3L turbo D 450hp/950ft/lb @30psi
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LT-5@redline
From:White Plains, MD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Yeah what happend John ? That's only a 3 MPH gain in your trap speed from what you stated you ran at 7psi and 180 RWHP less ??? Even if you managed ANY additional boost in first and second then hit the full 12PSI in third and fourth your trapspeed should of gained far more than 3 MPH by the traps. P.S. was there any street action on the way there or back ??  ------------------
Kevin D. --- 91' ZR1 Vette
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Sheyster
From:San Diego, CA.
Registered: Dec 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by John Hennessey / HMS:
Hi Dan,Best ET was a 10.20 and best trap speed was 143.8 mph. Overall we were pleased that the car ran consistently and reliably. We did discover that we are making less boost in 1st and 2nd gears and that may have made us a bit slower thru the 1/8th mile. But the car rocks in 3rd and 4th and I think is faster than the 143 mph indicates. Anyway, we have a few more tweaks and may make another visit to the track at some point in the future. There is a video out there and if I can find the link I will post it. Regards, John
John, Awesome mph indicative of the power of the beast. Curious about the 60' time as well. It's definitely a mid 9's car, if you can get her to hook up.
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Sheyster.
2000 GTS - Steel Gray Pearl - Silver Stripes
Web Site: www.sdvipers.com "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." F.D.R. This message has been edited by Sheyster on 01-10-2002 at 11:21 PM
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soulbounder
From:Lafayette, LA, USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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Here's the link to the video if you haven't seen it. http://www.mydigitalvideo.net/demos/dothers.htm
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John Hennessey / HMS
Texas VCA Member
From:Houston, TX
Registered: Oct 2000
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Matt, I ran a 10.3 with a 1.66 60 ft. so there is more left in getting a better launch off the line. We were running about 138 mph before.LT - we looked at the clutch after returning from the track and it was pretty much worn out. I didnt notice it slipping at the track, but it could have accounted for being a little slower in the 1/8th. Also, not making full boost in the lower gears effects the 1/8 mile time too. On the big end of the track, the car felt as strong as it did on the street. No action on the way back. Shey, not sure about a mid-9 car, but from a roll I would match it up with any Viper in the world. Still working on a few tweaks and if we get to the track again I'll let you know what happens, Have a good weekend. John
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Sheyster
From:San Diego, CA.
Registered: Dec 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by John Hennessey / HMS:
I ran a 10.3 with a 1.66 60 ft. so there is more left in getting a better launch off the line.
That's better than I thought it would be (the 60'). So you're attributing the high (if you can call it that) ET to lack of power in 1st and 2nd? How's traction when you hit 2nd and 3rd? ------------------
Sheyster.
2000 GTS - Steel Gray Pearl - Silver Stripes Web Site: www.sdvipers.com "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." F.D.R. This message has been edited by Sheyster on 01-11-2002 at 02:18 PM
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getbit
Proud VCA Member
From:Lake Charles,LA. USA
Registered: Oct 2000
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I also got a ride in this incredible machine. It felt very smooth and very fast. With a little tweaking, no doubt this machine will be in the 9's!
Thanks for the ride, John!
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Jason B. Fontenot
VCA MEMBER #09335 Since 1999
2001 Sapphire GTS/Silver Stripes - TNT Headers/exhaust, Hennessey Carbon-Fibre airbox, small shot O' NX!
2003 Viper SRT-10 Certificate!
1966 Shelby Cobra Replica(514ci-600+hp)
2001 PT Cruiser Limited
2001 GMC Yukon Denali XL
2002 GMC 2500 Crew Cab 4X4 Duramax Turbo Diesel
2002 Harley-Davidson VROD (coming soon!)
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Peanuts
From:New Orleans LA.
Registered: Dec 2001
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This is the whole reason why I have been skeptical about doing any engine work on my car. I have talked to a few people over the holidays on doing some major work on my car, but some tuners won't return your phone calls, or just claim to have X amount of power and can't run any serious track times. Also living in LA has been no help what so ever. ------------------
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John Hennessey / HMS
Texas VCA Member
From:Houston, TX
Registered: Oct 2000
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Jason - it was nice seeing you last week. Peanuts - maybe you can come to Houston next time with Jason, I think you would enjoy the trip. Have fun,
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John Hennessey
Texas VCA Member
"Too Much Horsepower is Never Enough"
Venom 800 Twin Turbo
Best 1/4 Mile ET: 10.11 sec.(3/17/01)
Best 1/4 Mile Trap Speed: 143.6 mph (1/9/02) This message has been edited by John Hennessey / HMS on 01-13-2002 at 08:14 PM
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Marc Lublin
NY/CT VCA Member
From:Oyster Bay, NY, USA
Registered: Oct 2000
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Peanuts,
Modifications to the Viper is a great thing. You are right to beware of some tuners, so you just have to be really careful about who you pick. There are some really great tuners out there. Remember just because a tuner comes online and posts over 900hp for a car does not make him honest or a good business man. Do your homework on this website and email me if you have any questions. Good luck!------------------
Marc Lublin
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Robert
From:
Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by John Hennessey / HMS:Shey, not sure about a mid-9 car, but from a roll I would match it up with any Viper in the world. John[/B]
John, How about putting it up against Norm Koerners LPE ZR1 TT? With 820 RWHP that's gotta be a challenge. Just make sure someone gets it on video so we can all see it. Regards Robert ------------------
1987 IROC-Z Auto (LB9)
Black/grey interior with the stance of a streetfighter
I like to think of her as Arnold Schwartzeneger in a dinner suit Mods
Corvette aluminum L98 heads, Crane Powermax (formerly Compucam)2032 cam, Crane 1.6 gold rockers, Crane lifters with cromemoly bearings, TRW forged pistons, 5 disc Vigilante 2800rpm converter, Edelbrock intake, ARP fasteners all round, custom exhaust. 4 Inch pipe from the headders all the way back to a single muffler at the rear. No Cat. K&Ns, AFPR and Air foil.
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FastMatt
AZ/NM VCA Member
From:alamogordo nm USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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i would bet that Norm Koerners ZR-1 will run 9.50 or faster... should be a good race!------------------
Matt Monett
www.dynamicracing.com
2000 Viper GTS ACR 11.74@127 at 3600ft
(Viper mods, some installed,some not, BTR NOS Belanger Headers, Belanger Exhaust, HF cats, Archer Pulleys, Crower cam, 3.33 gears, Fidanza FW, T&D 1.7 rockers)
95 Stealth RT TT 10.88@129.16mph @ 3600ft with 18psi with a 70hp shot. 10.96@129.96 @ 3600ft with 22psi and No NOS. All rus on 4 nito 555 drags, 100% street car, 4070lb with me in it(worlds fastest Dodge Stealth)
93 RT TT 11.74@120 @3600ft
92 Stealth RT TT
2000 Excurtion 4X4 7.3L turbo D 450hp/950ft/lb @30psi
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John Hennessey / HMS
Texas VCA Member
From:Houston, TX
Registered: Oct 2000
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I called Norm out about 10 days ago, still waiting for him to bring his ZR1TT over to the shop. I rode in his car when it had about 100 less hp and its strong for sure. It would be a great match up. I still think the orange car will put him down from a 3rd gear roll. If I am wrong then I will be the first to congratualate him!------------------
John Hennessey
Texas VCA Member
"Too Much Horsepower is Never Enough" Venom 800 Twin Turbo
Best 1/4 Mile ET: 10.11 sec.(3/17/01)
Best 1/4 Mile Trap Speed: 143.6 mph (1/9/02) This message has been edited by John Hennessey / HMS on 01-14-2002 at 08:56 PM
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FastMatt
AZ/NM VCA Member
From:alamogordo nm USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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if you guy's race GET THAT RACE ON VID!!! I would pay to see those 2 cars do a 60-200+mph race!!! Talk about the race for "The King Of The Hill"! we can call it "The Monsters Of Power Race"------------------
Matt Monett
www.dynamicracing.com
2000 Viper GTS ACR 11.74@127 at 3600ft
(Viper mods, some installed,some not, BTR NOS Belanger Headers, Belanger Exhaust, HF cats, Archer Pulleys, Crower cam, 3.33 gears, Fidanza FW, T&D 1.7 rockers)
95 Stealth RT TT 10.88@129.16mph @ 3600ft with 18psi with a 70hp shot. 10.96@129.96 @ 3600ft with 22psi and No NOS. All rus on 4 nito 555 drags, 100% street car, 4070lb with me in it(worlds fastest Dodge Stealth)
93 RT TT 11.74@120 @3600ft
92 Stealth RT TT
2000 Excurtion 4X4 7.3L turbo D 450hp/950ft/lb @30psi
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LT-5@redline
From:White Plains, MD
Registered: Dec 2001
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I agree Matt, but that video won't be complete unless there's a single turbo supra (bryce Dana's) in the backround getting spanked by BOTH cars as their racing each other, hehe
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Kevin D. --- 91' ZR1 Vette
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LT-5@redline
From:White Plains, MD
Registered: Dec 2001
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By the way Matt, what size/spec turbos are you running in your 10-sec Stealth ?? ...a 130MPH trapspeed at 3600 ft alt. with a 4000lbs car (with driver)is VERY impressive to say the least. And 22 psi (1.5 bar) isn't too high on the boost either. I bet you have a lot more out of that package. Maybe 25 PSI at a much lower altitude track and a 140 MPH trap isn't out of the question (as long as that tranny stays together------------------
Kevin D. --- 91' ZR1 Vette
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FastMatt
AZ/NM VCA Member
From:alamogordo nm USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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the turbos are GT-368's (custom twins)
Yes the car does have alot more in it, Spark blow-out was not alowing me to run any higher boost that day, I am still working on the problm. I too think traps in the 140mph range at 0ft are going to be there with 30psi or so...------------------
Matt Monett
www.dynamicracing.com
2000 Viper GTS ACR 11.74@127 at 3600ft
(Viper mods, some installed,some not, BTR NOS Belanger Headers, Belanger Exhaust, HF cats, Archer Pulleys, Crower cam, 3.33 gears, Fidanza FW, T&D 1.7 rockers)
95 Stealth RT TT 10.88@129.16mph @ 3600ft with 18psi with a 70hp shot. 10.96@129.96 @ 3600ft with 22psi and No NOS. All rus on 4 nito 555 drags, 100% street car, 4070lb with me in it(worlds fastest Dodge Stealth)
93 RT TT 11.74@120 @3600ft
92 Stealth RT TT
2000 Excurtion 4X4 7.3L turbo D 450hp/950ft/lb @30psi
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Robert
From:
Registered: Nov 2001
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btw John,What is the correct name for the color of that car? Prowler orange? It looks great. Also, keep us posted with regards to a clash of the titans race with Norm. Robert
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John Hennessey / HMS
Texas VCA Member
From:Houston, TX
Registered: Oct 2000
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Robert - yes that is Prowler orange, the only Viper like it. It looks orange in the daylight and looks like copper at night, pretty cool.
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John Hennessey
Texas VCA Member
"Too Much Horsepower is Never Enough" Venom 800 Twin Turbo
Best 1/4 Mile ET: 10.11 sec.(3/17/01)
Best 1/4 Mile Trap Speed: 143.6 mph (1/9/02)
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Amir
From:Skokie, IL/ W. Lafayette, IN
Registered: Jun 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by LT-5@redline:
I agree Matt, but that video won't be complete unless there's a single turbo supra (bryce Dana's) in the backround getting spanked by BOTH cars as their racing each other, hehe
Don't be too sure that Bryce would get spanked by both of the cars easily. I remember (from the ZR1 Forum) that SW raced one of his friends TTZR1's with his Single Turbo Supra. He said the cars were evenly matched and SW makes about the same power as Bryce. Who knows, Bryce might get beat, but certainly not spanked. I don't mean this to be a flame, just shedding some light on the post.
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SNAKE EYES YOU LOSE!
From:VARIOUS PARTS OF COUNTRY
Registered: Oct 2000
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ROBERT,JOHN HENNESSY WANTED TO RUN ON HIS SCHEDULE.I TOLD JOHNNY BOY TO RUN STEVE UELIGGER'S VIPER FIRST. STEVE RUNS HIGH 9 S ON SPRAY.THEN I WOULD BE HAPPY TO RUN THE WINNER.I ALSO SUGGESTED TO JOHN TO SET UP A RUN OFF WITH THE CAR MAGAZINE MOTOR TREND.NOW IM STILL WAITING ON JOHN. SO WHO'S WAITING ON WHO? THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE LINGENFELTER ZR1 TWIN TURBO WILL BEAT THE VENOM 800 OR 900 OR 1000 IN THE QTR.MILE. .WHATEVER THE VENOM NUMBER IS DEPENDING ON WHAT DAY IT IS. THE LINGENFELTER 427 TWIN TURBO WITH APX 700 R.W.H.P. RUNS 9.5'S IN THE QTR. ALL DAY LONG.IF THE ZR1 TWIN TURBO DOESN'T SMOKE THE TWIN TURBO VIPER ILL BE THE FIRST TO CONGRADULATE JOHN. REGARDS!......NORM KOERNER------------------
99 RT10 VENOM 700 10.47 @132.54 MOTOR ONLY
00 GTS VENOM 650 567 R.W.H.P.
95 ZR1 LPE TT 03 820 R.W.H.P. W/ADJ.BOOST CONTROLLER FASTER THAN A VENOM 800/900/1000 TT
00 Z28 CAMARO LPE 427 C5R PFS#1 9.72 @ 142 M.P.H. MOTOR ONLY.... WHO'S YOUR DADDY!
68 PLY HEMI ROAD RUNNER RESTORATION PROJECT This message has been edited by SNAKE EYES YOU LOSE! on 01-15-2002 at 10:35 PM
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